What can you do with this old Arena? One Alabama city facing massive question

Published: Mon, 09/12/22

What can you do with this old Arena? One Alabama city facing massive question

AL.com (Alabama)
By John Sharp | jsharp@al.com
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Elvis Presley concert in Mobile, Ala. in June of 1977. (Press-Register archives)

Few arenas left standing can rival the Mobile Civic Center’s history of hosting Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees.

Elvis Presley serenaded the venue throughout the 1970s. A picture of Elvis from the 1975 show serves on one of his albums.

The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, The Monkees, Tina Turner, Kiss, Michael Jackson, Fleetwood Mac, AC/DC, Bruce Springsteen and the E. Street Band, Cher, Prince, Journey, Elton John, and more, have rocked the aging venue.

Wrestling shows have brought the national TV audiences. Monster truck rallies have brought the fans. And the Mobile Mystics once packed the Arena for several years with minor league hockey.
But the Arena is 58 years old, the touring acts rarely come. Instead of a historic rock house, the Mobile Civic Center Arena is now considered an unsightly relic. Its dome is faded, and the interior dark and dingy. Each year, the venue requires the city to fork over up $2 million to maintain. One city official once called it a “wart at the end of our nose.”

Some council members say the time is close to decide and move on.

“It’s been a festering eyesore for 30 years,” said Councilman Joel Daves. “At some point, (city leaders) have to make a decision on what to do with that piece of property.”

For decades, city officials have wrestled on what to do with the Civic Center Arena that serves as the anchor of 22-acre site on the southwestern edge of downtown Mobile. Attached to the building is a theater, built in the same year, and Expo Hall that was built in 1973. All three are considered sorely outdated by modern standards for sports and entertainment venues.

A recent study from Kansas City-based Populous pitched an idea of enhancing the Arena. One of the two options the company suggest is to double-down on highlighting the Arena through a proposal called “enhance” the dome. The other is called “shift to the east” and it includes a proposal for residential development and a hotel on the Civic Center property.

The estimated price-tag: $132 million to $168 million.

Experts say, even after a costly renovation, there are limited options for old, circular-shaped arenas like the Mobile Civic Center. At one point, several years ago, the cost estimates of simply renovating the building’s faded roof was over $5 million.

“The problem is these facilities are used so infrequently and become economically obsolete,” said Rob Baade, a sports economist professor at Lake Forest College near Chicago and the former president of the International Association of Sports Economists.

He added, “What do you use these things for once the novelty effect wears off? It’s a major challenge that Mobile is finding out. It’s a tough one to figure out.”

Unique complications


Tony Consentino and Tom Walker, far right, celebrate the Mobile Mysticks fifth goal late in the third period of the team's last home game before it suspended operations in 2002. The organization would relocate to Duluth, Georgia, for the 2002-2003 season. Some officials believe it will be difficult to attract a minor league sports franchise even with a rebuilt Mobile Civic Center Arena. (file photo)


The Arena’s fate is complicated because of several factors, some of which are unique to Mobile including Mardi Gras. The approximately two-week Carnival in Mobile remains, by far, Alabama’s largest annual festival.

Among them:

“If there was an easy solution, it would have arrived by now,” said Daves. “At some point, we have to hold our nose and make the best decision we can.”

Mardi Gras


Mardi Gras designer Ron Barrett's art installations in the Mobile Civic Center are consistent throughout the Carnival season. The venue serves as the home base for many of the largest elaborate balls during the Carnival season.


Those decisions will likely include several components for the Arena’s future: Mardi Gras, the possibility for increasing youth sports activities, and other multi-uses that incorporate the arts and entertainment.

It is no Mardi Gras mystery over the Arena’s popularity with the organizations that utilize it during Carnival season.

The festival, by and large, still exists in the same format it did decades ago with Mardi Gras organizations – referred to as mystic societies – producing the parades that draw thousands of spectators through downtown Mobile. Following the parades, the mystic societies retreat to the Civic Center where they host a formal, invite-only ball.

The Civic Center’s location often serves as the starting and end point for the parades. The parking lot’s concrete surface area might be unpopular by modern urban planners who prefer more green spaces, but it is convenient for the Mardi Gras attendees. And the Arena’s circular configuration allows large organizations, like the Crewe of Columbus and the Mystic Stripers, to host an elaborate tableau – the term that refers to the entertainment preformed for the guests.

Wayne Dean, a Mobile Mardi Gras historian who portrays the beloved Slacabamarinco during Carnival each year, said he believes the city has not done a good enough job in communicating the holiday’s importance to the out-of-state developers who have pitch past Civic Center ideas.

“I think everyone agrees a city like Mobile needs a Civic Center type of facility,” Dean said. “The unusual thing about Mobile as opposed to Cleveland or New York or Wichita is that we have this thing called Mardi Gras. Unfortunately, a lot of people who come in don’t understand that dynamic.”

Should Mardi Gras purchase it?

Mystic societies, in the past, expressed their concerns that repurposing the Arena will upend tradition, and potentially alter the city’s Mardi Gras traditions that are interwoven into the city’s cultural fabric. Mobile’s tagline, “Born to Celebrate” is a play on the city’s reputation as the “Birthplace of Mardi Gras.”

“They are spending money hand over fist to throw the party,” said Councilman Ben Reynolds. “They are the operators of Mardi Gras.”

Some questions have arisen in recent years on whether the mystic societies should fork out their own money to purchase the Civic Center.

Reynolds said he has been asked that question before. His answer: It doesn’t make any sense.

“I’ve heard people say, ‘Mardi Gras organizations have money and should just buy the Civic Center,’” he said. “But I say, ‘to what end?’ Does that mean Mardi Gras organizations buy the Civic Center and go broke and then we don’t have those party operators in Mobile? That doesn’t make a lot of sense, either.”

Indeed, Mardi Gras holds significant sway over the fate of the structure. A previous proposal for the Arena, pitched by Baltimore-based Cordish, included renovating it into a mixed-use indoor and outdoor venue similar to the trendy Live! Entertainment districts adjacent to professional sports venues in Atlanta and St. Louis.

City officials, three years ago, visited the 4th Street Live! Entertainment district in Louisville to see if that idea would work for Mobile.

It did not go anywhere. Among the critics were the downtown bars and eateries worried about the public sector subsidizing competing businesses.

Sports tourism

Mardi Gras aside, officials are looking at ideas to make the 22-acre Civic Center site a draw for Mobile and one that will draw visitors to the city.

Danny Corte, executive director with the Mobile Sports Authority, believes that sports tourism will bring the people if the Arena is repurposed into a rectangular facility.

Sports industry experts agree and note that some cities in other states including Texas are branding themselves as “sports cities” that host tournaments.

“Moving forward it would make sense to renovate it in a way to host multiple events,” said Thilo Kunkel, director of the sports industry research center at Temple University. “These events drive economic impact particularly when we talk about traveling teams and organizations that are bringing participants into the city over a weekend.”

Renovating the Civic Center into a multi-purpose sports and entertainment venue is likely to be costly and require demolition of the existing facility. But the venue’s site could provide Mobile a lift in offering an attractive multi-purpose sports venue, which Corte and others in the city claim the city lacks.

“The building is round and there is only so much you can do with it,” Corte said about the current configuration. “I would need a building that would be an operate space, a rectangular building, to put the courts in. Whether that is the Civic Center site or another privately developed site, we need courts.”

Corte’s comment comes as indoor activities like basketball, volleyball and pickleball continue to serve as economic generators for cities with venues that can host competitive tournaments.

“You see a lot of facilities drawing on that,” said Amanda Ross, professor of economics at Culverhouse College of Business at the University of Alabama. “The rectangular reconfiguration helps more with volleyball, and pickleball is very much catching on and can be played indoors and outdoors. Switching the configuration would help it a lot to market (the Arena) for specific sports.”

Kunkel also agrees that the circular venue is not conducive for hosting multiple sports at the same time, like the sportplexes that operate in other Alabama cities but not in Mobile.

“(The Arena) could be adjusted by (renovating) the seating areas and hospitality areas as well and that may be one option rather than ‘we need to tear it down because it’s round,’” said Kunkel.

Multi-purpose uses


The following was a picture, provided several years ago, of a rendering provided by CBRE to show what a future Cordish Cos. project would look like at the Mobile Civic Center site. This view is looking at the Civic Center site from Spanish Park Plaza in downtown Mobile, Ala. The city has since gone in another direction, which could include renovating the Civic Center Arena. (file photo)

Ross said that sinking millions of dollars into the Arena with the hope of capturing touring musical acts is likely not the most sensible investment.

“The indoor concerts are on the decline, and they are shifting to the outdoor (amphitheaters) from what I’ve observed,” she said. “In the South, people like the outdoor concerts more.”

Kunkel said that the entertainment acts could be a draw to a renovated indoor venue if catered to the right audience.

He said that Generation Z – youths born in the mid-1990s to 2010 – are showing a “big uptick” in spending for entertainment following the COVID-19 pandemic. He anticipates that trend continuing.

“We see events catering to older audiences decreasing,” he said.

His suggestion is to renovate into a multi-purpose facility that can host festivals and musical entertainment, sports, fitness facilities and “make it a hub that involves more than just watching games or tournaments, but making sure people come on a regular basis so it serves as a community center.”

Corps of Engineers, zoning


Mobile Civic Center (Mike Kittrell, AL.com

For now, the city is contemplating what it should do with the entire 22-acre site. At issue is whether Mobile should press ahead with a proposed zoning change that would address the Civic Center’s redevelopment.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is pitching a project that to build a six-story office building on the southeast portion of the Civic Center property. An adjoining parking garage would also be constructed.

Some council members are suggesting the city slow down. Councilman William Carroll, whose council district includes the Civic Center, said a master plan is needed for the entire site. He said the Populous study focused only on the three buildings – the Arena, theater, and Expo Hall.

“No one is against development of the site,” said Carroll. “It’s not the buildings that are holding up the process. What is holding it up is the (lack of) a master plan for the raw site and what are the effects to the surrounding communities.”

Daves said he believes the venue has been studied plenty, only to hear objections from interest groups or community organizations that spark another round of studies.

And that gets expensive. The Populous study cost taxpayers more than $160,000.

“How much longer will we continue to engage with experts without making a decision?” Daves said. “The councils and mayors (of the past) have not made a decision because every time they are close to making a decision, people rise up and say they don’t like what’s going on there.”

He added, “How long will we continue to go through this merry-go-round of hiring experts, hearing objections, and deciding to hire more experts?

Some council members say they need more time, and more than they feel they have been given. The Corps has an aggressive time frame for its building, and its project could serve as a “catalyst for future development and a potential source of financing for future development,” according to Mobile Mayor Sandy Stimpson’s office.

Stimpson’s office said the first step is to get the zoning issues resolved. A tight timeline is an issue, with the Corps wanting to begin construction on its building by the first of 2023.

“I think the driver is the Corps of Engineer building which basically gives us 45 days to figure this out,” said Councilman Scott Jones. “I think the path forward to me is discuss and understand clearly what our options are and to try and make sure we have received input from all who wish to develop the property, so we know what is in the realm of possibility versus just and idea – which there are a lot out there.”

“From there, we are going to have to have some discussions with the mayor’s administration to work together to define what the path forward is,” Jones said.

 


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